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This week we are reading:
Title: Super Massive Black Hole
Author: sweetbutterbliss
Rating: Explicit
Author's Summary: Arthur slots himself into Eames' life and career without so much as a splash. He'd been renting a perfectly abysmal one room apartment in a terrifying part of the Bronx, and he didn't have much in the way of possessions so when he kept showing up and eventually just...stayed, Eames hadn't even noticed at first.
Eames looks around the loft and sees Arthur's socks and shoes tucked under the coffee table, his battered copy of "The Stranger" splayed open on the couch, and Arthur himself asleep on the bed, snoring lighting and wearing a pair of Eames' boxers. They're much too big for him, which is why Eames enjoys it when he wears them, slipping off to reveal the curve of his ass before Arthur hitches them back up.

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This is a fantastic fic! One of my favourites! It hurts but it's kind of nice seeing Arthur being the dick that screws everything up for a change!


Date: 2017-06-05 05:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sdlibrarian
I think Arthur has learned his lesson, but it is going to take lots of communication on both their parts to work things out and make it work for the long run. In the fic I believe they can do it even if I probably wouldn't be as positive for a real world couple in a similar situation.

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Date: 2017-06-06 07:18 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] katythereader
I think it works within this story, which has painted a picture of a somewhat obsessive desire on Eames' part. In that context, of course he'd want Arthur back. I'm not sure Arthur has done all that much to deserve a second chance. Other than be the hot boy he's depicted as, aware of what he lost. But is he aware of how much he hurt Eames?

Date: 2017-06-06 05:42 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] ravenclawinstarfleet
It doesn't seem like he is aware, especially if at this point he just wants to be back with him because he's bored. I can see why Eames lets him back in, because it's a natural instinct when you've had that connection with someone. But more objectively I would hope that Arthur could at least prove that he's changed - keeping in mind that at that point at the end, Arthur was still in a relationship with Robert, even.

I'd love to see Ariadne's POV when she finds out though, ha. You know she'd call them out on it.

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Date: 2017-06-06 08:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] earlgreytea68
I do like that it's Arthur's smile and dimples that makes Eames cave, because I like that it's Eames's memory of the Arthur he knew that makes him take Arthur back in, because that makes sense to me.

I do wish that Arthur displayed more of an understanding of how much he hurt Eames, not just by leaving but by leaving in that particularly cruel way. I feel like his internal monologue still feels very young to me. But I'm hoping that he gets there. Maybe Ariadne will keep him in line!

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Date: 2017-06-09 01:56 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flosculatory
I'm curious, what makes you say that Eames is obsessive? (I'm not disagreeing: I just find it interesting considering that Arthur's really the one who initiated their relationship and, you know, tracked Eames down and broke into his house) Do you think it developed slowly and how?

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Date: 2017-06-06 08:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] earlgreytea68
When I finished reading the story, my very first thought was, "So is this a happily ever after? Or not?" lol, I'm still not sure, but I kind of like that it's a little bit open, because then I can write my happy ending.

The thing that always strikes me about this fic is how their relationship initially ends. Like, it's one thing to break up with someone but Arthur does it in such a childish and immature way, pushing Eames to see how much he can get away with before Eames will break, and I just hope he doesn't do it again!

Date: 2017-06-07 02:56 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] inimitablereel
So Eames is absolutely not at fault for the breakup, since Arthur basically pushes him into it. But is he partially to blame for its messiness? He knew that things were going badly. Should he have broken up with Arthur (or forced Arthur into talking) earlier? (Yes I'm playing devil's advocate. We don't really see most of their relationship, which is so interesting, since it's the opposite of how a lot of fics would go.)

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Date: 2017-06-08 01:09 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jambees221b
This fic broke my heart. I didn't read any tags and I wasn't ready for it. Cheating is such a terrible, horrible thing to do to my OTP!

(Mind you... I liked it! I wouldn't feel so strongly about it if I didn't, and I just couldn't stop reading it once I started.)

Arthur is terrible in this one. I had a hard time feeling sympathy for him after how childish he acted the first time he left Eames. (See? I wrote "the first time" without meaning to! He left him only once but I can't help to think that this will not last the 2nd way around.)

I loved the photoshoot. Lovely tension. I would have loved to read Eames' POV. I bet it would have been a lot less sexy. I wonder if it felt like revenge, or he was just trying to get a rise out of him, but I'm pretty sure he was suffering. :(

I don't think Eames gave in too easily. I think that this type of connexion with someone cannot be simply ignored. I just have a really hard time being optimistic about what happens next to their couple.

Sad. I'm sad thinking about it. :(

Date: 2017-06-09 01:33 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flosculatory
about it not ending well the next time: the only reason Arthur gives for breaking up with Eames is that he's embarrassed of Eames' clothes, apartment and career. And those things haven't actually changed by the end of the fic, have they? (except /maybe/ career).

It's not easy to be with someone who is embarrassed about every aspect of your life. And it definitely isn't a solution for Eames to change himself to be "acceptable" to Arthur's sensibilities. So where does that leave us?

Date: 2017-06-13 06:29 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fiamac
Now, I know I'm guilty of Arthur-favoritism. But...

I once had a lit professor that taught us to look at what's missing in the story as much as what's visible. And you know what I don't see? Eames pursuing Arthur. Eames fighting for Arthur. Eames convincing Arthur how much he's wanted, and how much he wants from Arthur. Instead, we have Eames idly, even absently accepting Arthur into his home, his bed, his life. Sort of, "oh, hey, looks like we're living together. When did that happen?" Not exactly a solid foundation for an even relationship between equal partners.

And then Arthur starts screwing around... and Eames does nothing. What message does that send to Arthur? How far did Arthur have to go before Eames showed that it mattered to him? Was it too little, too late?

The only time Eames isn't passive is in sex -- there Eames is demanding, aggressive, dominating. There we finally see Eames taking an active role in their relationship. There do we see Arthur being open, honest, and emotional in response.

And then, what do we have at the end? Eames makes an overture, sure, but then backs down. Retreats. Arthur again is the one that has to pursue. That fights for something between them. That compromises his desires and accepts the possibility of an "acquaintanceship" wherein he thinks he's not wanted.

Date: 2017-06-06 05:11 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] inimitablereel
So Arthur is kind of the bad guy in this fic. But the setup we've got here deprives him of all of his defining characteristics (excepting of course the very important one of looking pretty in - and out of - suits). I don't think this is a failing on the part of the author; it's cool seeing what someone who's often (and again here) characterized as very organized, driven, and hardworking does in a job where you can't really just put in the extra hours. (That said I know very little about the modeling industry but enough to say that it is a real job and hard work and so on. But it doesn't use any of those pointman skills without the social climbing aspect of his storyline.)

Date: 2017-06-06 07:20 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] katythereader
It's kind of a pre-Arthur, isn't it? Perhaps, after he and Eames have done the talking we all agree they need to do, he will discover those skills and take both their careers to new heights.

Date: 2017-06-06 08:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] earlgreytea68
Agreed. I was thinking that Arthur just seems very, very young in this fic, and that hopefully there's room for him to grow into his own.

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Date: 2017-06-09 01:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flosculatory
I like to think that this Arthur carries over his confidence from the movie, which gets him success and Eames (just barging into his apartment and taking what he wants), but in classic tragic fashion, is also his downfall because it feeds his ego and ambition, ruining his relationship with Eames.

Side note, I like to think of Arthur using his pointman skills to track down Eames' address at the beginning. Model by day, hacker by night, etc.

Date: 2017-06-06 08:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] earlgreytea68
My favorite scene in this fic is Eames's photo shoot of Arthur in his tiny red underwear. I find it so sexually charged and fraught and it kills me. Because it's from Arthur's POV, I always wonder what Eames's POV is in that scene. Like, is Eames trying to get a rise out of Arthur? Is Eames unable to help himself? Does Eames want to see if he still has an effect on Arthur? Why does Eames get rid of Robert? Etc. Any thoughts?

Date: 2017-06-07 01:05 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sdlibrarian
I would Love Eames POV for that scene. I think he is probably dying inside, but still trying to be professional even if he can't help letting some of the flirting slip out.-- since it seems like this job is him moving up in the photography world?

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Date: 2017-06-09 12:59 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] flosculatory
Honestly, while reading this fic, that scene gave me pause and I'm not sure I liked it with respect to Eames' characterization. (That said, I OBVIOUSLY enjoyed it from a hotness perspective. Obviously.)

From how their relationship ended, with Eames in an extremely vulnerable position, reminding Arthur he loved him, I would expect Eames to act colder/flatly professional? Or try to protect himself more. For example, bringing up the elevator thing: if I were Eames I'd consider all of Arthur's possible reactions to that. Arthur could feign cool ignorance (which would hurt Eames) or mock the memory (which would hurt Eames) or he could be polite but restrained (which would embarrass Eames). Basically, I'd find Eames' tactics to be too risky, especially since it would be hard to predict Arthur's reactions after three years of separation. Besides, if Eames was trying to inflict pain on Arthur, just getting him aroused is a pretty weak blow: if he were truly that petty I'm pretty sure he could say something more stinging.

Thinking about it more: I guess we often have a flippant Eames in fic, trying to pretend he's not hurt? I guess I just didn't see enough evidence in the rest of this story to support that trait: Eames is pretty earnest at the end of the relationship and is openly vulnerable in front of Ari/Yusuf, and there is no mention of him going around on sex binges. -shrug-

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Date: 2017-06-13 06:40 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] fiamac
I read it as a revenge-fuck -- hands down. Eames exerting his sexuality on Arthur in an angry, saddened, impersonal way. Trying to lay his claim on Arthur in a way that has nothing to do with love or affection and everything to do with exorcising rage, hurt, resentment.

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