Discussion post: Novel length -- The Domesticverse, part 2

[kate-the-reader.livejournal.com]

This second part of the discussion of gyzym's Domesticverse, Wherever You Will Be (That's Where I'll Call Home) includes parts 5, 7 and 8. We'll discuss part 6 in the rare pair week.
Part 5: pressed against the pending physics of my passed down last name
part 7: life long local foreigner, i
part 8: having let go forever the fallacy of ever being alone

Once again, msbrightsidesh and I really enjoyed discussing these chapters, which are, if possible, even lovelier than the earlier ones.
SO MANY FEELS!

Comments

Flail with us, part II

[kate-the-reader.livejournal.com]

What were the parts that best expressed their developing relationship? Favorite moments/lines?

Re: Flail with us, part II

[earlgreytea68.livejournal.com]

I mentioned it above but I *love* the moment when Arthur gets Eames's facade to crack when they're at his family's house and he says, "There you are." *Love* that moment.

I also love everything about Arthur moping without Eames around, missing Eames, those phone calls with him when Eames is in transit, gah.

Arthur's declaration of love, of course.

Eames pickpocketing Arthur's keys and Arthur shouting that he's a thief.

RE: Re: Flail with us, part II

[kate-the-reader.livejournal.com]

This is really one of those time when it's impossible to pick just one example, but I really love the part after Eames comes back from that terrible, terrible job in Poland — how angry Arthur is , and how, just when they have calmed down, and they go back out, Arthur to the meeting with Cobb, and Eames calls him after everything goes wrong and Arthur doesn't even hesitate for a millisecond before he goes to rescue him. How Arthur understands exactly what is happening to Eames in that moment, that it's not at all about the car and the other frustrations of the day.

And from a purely writer point of view, how fucking brilliant is that scene? As a way to show SO MUCH. I'm in awe.

Re: Flail with us, part II

[earlgreytea68.livejournal.com]

Yes!! I love that scene, too. So hurt/comfort in this way that kills me.

Re: Flail with us, part II

[flosculatory.livejournal.com]

crying because I read your last point and imagined Eames just yelling back, "We're both thieves, that's our job." or "It takes one to know one." or "I know you are but what am I?" (yes they got progressively more immature, I'm not quite sure what my brain is doing)

Re: Flail with us, part II

[earlgreytea68.livejournal.com]

Hahahaha!

Re: Flail with us, part II

[kedgeree11.livejournal.com]

It occurred to me last night that this series is about *breadth* of love as well as depth. There's so much wonderful fic that gives a picture of how Arthur & Eames (or any pair) fall in love or shows examples of how deep that love goes, but this fic more asks the question "Okay, you're in love...so now what?" (Which, back to last week, is I think one of the reasons that first fic is so necessary. It's the first part of the question.) Now your love has to stand up not only to dream world danger, it has to stand up to sickness and paying the bills and cooking dinner and visiting family and self-doubt and death. How does your relationship adapt to real life and to time? It's about all the...I don't know...arms? love grows to reach out and wrap around each other. Also about the fact that "in love" is an ongoing thing, not an end goal.

RE: Re: Flail with us, part II

[kate-the-reader.livejournal.com]

I LOVE the way you have expressed this, breadth of love, perfect and beautiful.

Re: Flail with us, part II

[flosculatory.livejournal.com]

YES. there are so many fics about pairings getting together, but what happens after? How do they keep the ~magic~ alive? Like at the end of some fics, I'm not fully convinced that they would stay together, that they wouldn't just end up drifting apart, that their love had staying power.

and your last sentence, many many hearts.

Re: Flail with us, part II

[earlgreytea68.livejournal.com]

Yes!

Re: Flail with us, part II

[msbrightsidesh.livejournal.com]

so well said *totally doesn't cry*

Re: Flail with us, part II

[kedgeree11.livejournal.com]

Every time I have read this, I have giggled ridiculously at the "potato bug" / "that's not the endearment I would have chosen to start out with" part. I forget it's there and then right in the middle of this SCENE it's hilarious all over and I can't stop laughing! :D

Re: Flail with us, part II

[earlgreytea68.livejournal.com]

Hahahaha!

Re: Flail with us, part II

[flosculatory.livejournal.com]

Okay my favourite fic of the series is the wedding one, because I love the way Arthur's family is written. Because they're not just one-dimensionally awful people, like even Eames admits that he can see love there, but still some of the interactions they have just cut deep.

Another reason it's my favourite is that it has one of the most memorable moments in the whole series (for me at least): when they're shouting at each other in the pouring rain and Arthur is hurting, but Eames proves to us just how deeply he knows Arthur, and knows that Arthur loves him even if Arthur can't yet bring himself to say it, and just. ugh. that scene.

(oh and also that fic has a ridiculously hot sex scene okay)

Re: Flail with us, part II

[earlgreytea68.livejournal.com]

SUCH A GREAT FIC. SUCH A GREAT SCENE.

Re: Flail with us, part II

[msbrightsidesh.livejournal.com]

I just can't with this verse. As I said before, it's my absolute go to thing when feeling down. I'm sory, Pry, but I'll have to bend the rules a tiny bit and say something about Take the long way home, because it's definitely among my favourite parts in this verse, reagrding how Arthur and Eames are seen by others. I think one reason why it's so hard to believe that Arthur has never said 'I love you' to Eames is because it's so obvious not only to Eames, but to everyone. Ariadne knows, Yusuf knows, Cobb knows. The way Ariadne thinks about them, the way she describes them treating each other as totems rings so true to me. It just describes Arthur and Eames so perfectly, I think, that in each other, they have found a way to hold onto reality. There might be other ways to do that, but they have found this one and it's so beautiful and right for them.

I love how they deal with each others families, I love that Arthur has a sister, I love that they still manage to surprise each other.

The scene where Arthur doesn't even think before getting Eames in his broken down car himself instead of calling someone is one of my favourite scenes in the universe. It's such a small gesture and it comes so naturally to Arthur, but it means so much to Eames.

Ehh, I can't really order my thoughts, there are so many things I want to say about this verse and why I love it, but I think most things have already been said by you wonderful people, so I hope you can forgive me for my lack of eloquence.